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What is M?

Last post Mon, May 31 2010 10:13 AM by italianstallion. 14 replies.
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  • Mon, May 10 2010 11:54 PM

    What is M?

    What is a good definition of M in laymen terms and is it really worth using?
  • Tue, May 11 2010 8:41 AM In reply to

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    hey dude who you calling laymen? hahaha

    seriously though im also interested in this.

  • Tue, May 11 2010 2:29 PM In reply to

    Re: What is M?

     eh what ??  Confused

  • Tue, May 11 2010 4:18 PM In reply to

    • zazu
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    Re: What is M?

    Agreed.

     WTF is 'm'?

  • Wed, May 12 2010 9:04 AM In reply to

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    zazu:

    Agreed.

     WTF is 'm'?

    x2

  • Wed, May 12 2010 1:09 PM In reply to

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    here for all you old people who dont know how to google:

    Compared to cash games, tournament holdem poker is notably different by the fact that you need to increase your stack in order to survive, whilst in cash games if you maintain a constant stack for hours, you are not winning but you are not losing either.

    In order to convey this notion of variable chip value, Paul Magriel coined the term M factor, originally conceptualized by Doyle Brunson in Super System and later popularized by Dan Harrington in Harrington on Hold'em.

    The M factor is simply equal to stack/(small blind + big blind + total antes), where total antes is the value of the ante times the number of players at the table.

    The denominator of this fraction is the total number of chips it costs to stay at the table for one orbit, so M is the number of orbits you can survive without taking into account any action that you could make. Equivalently as the pot before any action is the blinds plus all antes, M is your stack counted in number of starting pots.

    You must have played some Texas Hold'em tournaments in order to appreciate how crucial this M factor can be. This corresponds to the familiar feeling of being eaten alive by the rising blinds and antes when your stack is small and M is small too.

     

    now admittedly im not i fully understand it, but at least its a definition

  • Wed, May 12 2010 2:24 PM In reply to

    Re: What is M?

    This is a situation where you do not get any playable cards for a while, but meanwhile your stack decreases after each hand. As you approach elimination, you must gamble your entire stack in order to try to make a come back.

    In this predicament where M has decreased below a few units, you must take decisive measures in order to avoid your inevitable exit to happen. Conversely when the M factor in very large with no immediate likelihood of elimination, you should play a different strategy.

    M offers a fast, easy to calculate and uniform measure for evaluating your stack size under various blind structures or tournament stages. This M ratio can then help you determine what the best course of action is in the present situation. If you M changes, then you have to play differently.

  • Thu, May 13 2010 12:20 AM In reply to

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     A little confusing but thanks Yes

  • Mon, May 17 2010 10:48 AM In reply to

    Re: What is M?

    its simple really, how strong is your position ina tournament, because in a tournament you need to be playing hands or you loose your position

  • Tue, May 18 2010 12:13 PM In reply to

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    bignana FTW

  • Tue, May 18 2010 3:09 PM In reply to

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    now that made sense thanks bignana

  • Tue, May 18 2010 11:20 PM In reply to

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      you learn something new here almost everyday, well at least 1 day out of every day

  • Wed, May 19 2010 10:31 AM In reply to

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    bluffyourmum:

      you learn something new here almost everyday, well at least 1 day out of every day

    apparently you havent learnt logic yet
  • Thu, May 27 2010 9:23 AM In reply to

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    can we get an example of working out M and its value etc?

  • Mon, May 31 2010 10:13 AM In reply to

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    best idea yet well done pocketaces9

     

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